just saw this on sourcebans

[Penis シ]

Cyber, a note. If you suspect him of walling because of Vaga's, you're DEAD wrong. Walls regard the player model which disappears on r_drawothermodels. You'll want to tag him for ESP. That's because ESP goes off the hitboxes and not the player model. The best way to spot esp is to watch WHERE he aims at people when they pop out because he can see their gun information, health, name, and team. You'll want to add that to your list of things to look for when you think someone is walling in WCS because they found a vaga.

[CYBER]

Cyber, a note. If you suspect him of walling because of Vaga's, you're DEAD wrong. Walls regard the player model which disappears on r_drawothermodels. You'll want to tag him for ESP. That's because ESP goes off the hitboxes and not the player model. The best way to spot esp is to watch WHERE he aims at people when they pop out because he can see their gun information, health, name, and team. You'll want to add that to your list of things to look for when you think someone is walling in WCS because they found a vaga.

my apologize, i didnt make myself clear. What i meant to say was that i suspected him of hacking, because he kept getting the first shot on the vaga, even 15 feet away in the open... i usually play as vaga, and still have trouble finding the vagas... whetherit was walls or radar or esp or some random bs, i havent observed thoroughly yet... usually when i play with someone and i notice something BS, i dnt jump into spec like many of us do, and like i used to do, because im tired of peopl toggling off , if hacking. So i just play normally and act dumb, but i save a datestamp of the name and location of a sourceTV , download it , sort it by players-specked, and then assess what i see.
So yeah ,sourceTV was definitely one of the few i saved up demos of.. including butcher in GG, gekko and smileface and redbull (last 2 might be dead wrong, simply bcos i was having a bad day:P)

perhaps some have scripts that have the flashlight binded to autoshoot when smthn is in the way, even invis vagas... but imo , that's still considered an advantage exploit over others....

[Rosie]

There's a guy in wcs that i was spec-ing during the night yesterday... also named S0urceTv ?
I was specing that guy for walling because of some BS vaga-spotting across the map, just thought i'd share the fyi, ... it could be the same guy banned by console?

And i've used SourceTV2 and SourceMod when specing some proven hackers... works every time :P

That was me you tard. I said hey in Admin chat 3 times and you never responded. I was using the name to spec one of the other servers, and kept it for the night.

[CYBER]

That was me you tard. I said hey in Admin chat 3 times and you never responded. I was using the name to spec one of the other servers, and kept it for the night.

no u dimwit... i was specing ANOTHER sourceTV guy... when u played yesterday I thought it was the same other guy -.- awesome.
blah, no shit i couldnt get anything conclusive yesterday. i just despise u now for making me stay awake at night looking at a demo of a wrong guy... yeay.
ps: we already discussed this in steam, so let;s zip it for now bcos i dnt wanna reveal other ppl on my list here...