Future race suggestion thread

[maynard]

I guess at the end of the day, id much rather see this thread not be used to fantasize about some silly race idea but a thread used to discuss conventional race ideas that would make a substantial difference in the server. Examples like, yours, blakmails adam, mine, and even spasms tank race.

yeah, and I want a toilet made of solid gold... good luck with that.

this thread was made so any 1 who has a race idea can throw it down. the general publics view of these races are really irrelevant as there's a beyond small handful of people who truly understand how WCS works and is properly balanced via what races we have, and what good or bad could come from adding specific races from this section. as the le canadian race was funny, I don't think it would ever be added, but I did enjoy the sensor race and the idea of a race that targets the invis classes, or any class using any level or percentage of cloaking and is radar based.

once again... any 1 can post a race, if you don't like it, move on as insulting people over it is pointless as your opinion isn't really meaningful when it comes 2 actually deciding what we add and don't add... not 2 mention we wont even look at adding any races till we've re-added the old ones... which I believe zero is working on again now... and guess what lady's! JACK IS NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blackmail242]

yeah, and I want a toilet made of solid gold... good luck with that.

this thread was made so any 1 who has a race idea can throw it down. the general publics view of these races are really irrelevant as there's a beyond small handful of people who truly understand how WCS works and is properly balanced via what races we have, and what good or bad could come from adding specific races from this section. as the le canadian race was funny, I don't think it would ever be added, but I did enjoy the sensor race and the idea of a race that targets the invis classes, or any class using any level or percentage of cloaking and is radar based.

once again... any 1 can post a race, if you don't like it, move on as insulting people over it is pointless as your opinion isn't really meaningful when it comes 2 actually deciding what we add and don't add... not 2 mention we wont even look at adding any races till we've re-added the old ones... which I believe zero is working on again now... and guess what lady's! JACK IS NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought he was gonna stop redoing the races (the ones that he has yet to restore) because of the new coding that is supposed to be coming out in a few months :/. At least I remember him telling me about this when we played together. He said that he might as well stop coding now because he's going to have to do it all over again when that new coding language hits.

[maynard]

I was informed today by him that he's working on them... the timeline though is unknown... well that he's doing his best 2 work on them anyway, he's been uber busy as most of you know.

[blackmail242]

I was informed today by him that he's working on them... the timeline though is unknown.

Alright I guess he thought that it should be easier to go from this language to the next since they are being developed by the same people for the same game. :/ its gonna be hell when it hits for any mods though.

[maynard]

Alright I guess he thought that it should be easier to go from this language to the next since they are being developed by the same people for the same game. :/ its gonna be hell when it hits for any mods though.

dealing with WCS is always hell.... it's always a pain in the ass lol.

[CYBER]

dealing with WCS is always hell.... it's always a pain in the ass lol.

cheer up, have a poutine:P also, i understand that le canadian might not be added , altho fun, it doesnt matter the race name or effect names, its the tactics behind it, who knows we might take some skills here and there and abracadabra we have a new race (hmm..that abracadabra thing is stirring a race in my mind ;P)
now just to piss mikey off, i made another race suggestion.

Phantom (He Grenade And Knife ONLY)
Race conditions: -50% slower speed. 80?% cloak (just 10% more than a flame pred to balance slowness -> i know it seems a lot of cloaking but it's the race's only upside), and ^ obviously a grenade that generates every 10-15 seconds as back up weap?)
Restrictions: boots, cloak, gloves.


Levitation: Reduce your gravity by 30-60%


Dematerialise: 10-35?% chance of evading gun shots.


Death Scythe: Knifing can do critical damage (same as rapscallion's)


Reincarnate: Spawn ability, 10-50% chance to respawn a fallen ally with 25-75% max hp when YOU die.



Ultimate: Possess
Activate +ultimate to summon YOURSELF at an enemy location (same effect and cooldown as eye rae, only vice versa. obviously it will summon you to any player where u wouldnt be stuck)


MIKEY, i hope this race can be helpful in a team AND on its own. its basically the love child of a VERY slow flame pred and a nebula with protostar that summons itself every now and then...)

[Spasm]

The big deal with sensor is I personally think vagabond isn't as strong as everyone on wcs thinks it is. It is strong with a few of us...yes. With most it sucks and they hover around the 1.1 kdr. It can be annoying though but that doesnt make it powerful. I can say the same thing about other races as well and some that are way better then vaga and easier to play. Sensor would destroy vagabond and make it utterly uselsss. Did I mention raps??? lol yea raped.

I however do like that phantom idea.

[brett friggin favre]

what i like about sensor: it's a vaga/rap hunter. that is what it does, and isn't good for too much else. if the vaga isn't too good, as mentioned by spasm, then there probably wouldn't be any need for it. if the vaga is raping an entire team, it could be a good counter to that, though i feel the sensor would also have to be played well.

what i don't like about sensor: it punishes skilled users of vaga/rap. most importantly of those is rap i think, as it has the lowest kdr of the races and is the most difficult to play properly. having a perfect counter-race to that seems like overkill.

with phantom, i think it'd need a bash-type ability and silent footsteps, or just one or the other. otherwise pretty much the only way for it to get a kill would be to use its ulti and go for a backstab or lucky crit. i do like the idea of a slow, more invis knife race and it would be interesting to at least see it in testing.

[maynard]

I like the concept, but I think 3 charges would make more sense, and the other ability that can also give away cloaked people is a bit much.

race would have 2 be like one per team... and less charges, and less chance on the other ability for finding cloaked.

I like the direction and idea of the race as it's diff than the majority of races that are suggested. something that's based on using radar is a neat idea... I just think it needs 2 be tweaked, and be reduced a bit more in a few areas.

I'm also not arguing/pushing that this should be made, just saying I enjoy it as an idea and the concept.

also not sure why you keep bringing up vegabond... it's 1 of like 3 classes that go full invis... and there's others that almost go full invis which would make you want 2 use the charges often... not just for 1 specific race.

[brett friggin favre]

also not sure why you keep bringing up vegabond... it's 1 of like 3 classes that go full invis... and there's others that almost go full invis which would make you want 2 use the charges often... not just for 1 specific race.

that's true and 3 charges would add some strategy to it. and i'm bringing up vaga in particular just because it's the most deadly in the right hands in my opinion. of course nebula can be insane but it's a bit more luck-based with maser and can also be countered by smart radar usage, good eyes looking for a holstered pistol/grenades which still show up, and anticipation. rap, as i stated previously, is probably the easiest to counter in most cases. vaga's only weaknesses are the skill of the user, very tight maps, and laces which in a way require the vaga to mess up by going too close to enemies. of course there are other examples where sensor would be useful, but vaga is the most obvious.