Treehoe (Perma Banned) 06-23-12 11:01

[brett friggin favre]

the incident today occurred in the demo below, ticks 18k for 2 rounds, 29k, and i'm not sure what the word is on this but at 46.8k he slays himself to buy more tomes.

let me also add that tree and bigboss seemed to have this planned out. they didn't have to discuss it or anything, just did it as if it was business as usual. that tells me it's not the first time they've done this, but i don't have demos of the other times.

http://uploading.com/files/8c715c1m/treelonely.dem/

[Treehoe]

I can tell you right now, by the time i slayed myself for tomes it was easily 20+ minutes into the map and other players were present, i was having a good run and actually ended up 80-20 or so, i wasnt on a maxed race or anything to i slayed myself to spent my cash. and as far as knowing what to do for xp exploiting, if you ever have done an objective in a WCS you would realize that you get xp for objectives. anyone with a brain would notice that. you make it sound like its super hard to come up with something like that....

[brett friggin favre]

and as far as knowing what to do for xp exploiting, if you ever have done an objective in a WCS you would realize that you get xp for objectives. anyone with a brain would notice that. you make it sound like its super hard to come up with something like that....

not saying it's hard to figure out, but it was planned in advance. that much is rather clear.

[Pit_Viper1]

I gonna have to chime in here because I'm not sure how to look at this perma. I myself have never seen Treehoe manipulating the rank system, but I agree that something has to be done since he is a regular on the server and knows the rules. A perma seems a bit harsh for the first offense with evidence, perhaps a 48 hour ban and resetting his levels would be a little more fitting, with the understanding that if he is caught again he will need to find a new server to play on.

Anyway. That is my view on this. I know that my opinion has no sway over the unban request or anything for that matter, but I have been a guest of this community for a while now and this seems a bit harsh.

[CYBER]

I gonna have to chime in here because I'm not sure how to look at this perma. I myself have never seen Treehoe manipulating the rank system, but I agree that something has to be done since he is a regular on the server and knows the rules. A perma seems a bit harsh for the first offense with evidence, perhaps a 48 hour ban and resetting his levels would be a little more fitting, with the understanding that if he is caught again he will need to find a new server to play on.

Anyway. That is my view on this. I know that my opinion has no sway over the unban request or anything for that matter, but I have been a guest of this community for a while now and this seems a bit harsh.

might be double posting, unless someone wrote in the last 5 minutes, but
here's the thing, level farming IS a perma offence.
if we start becoming lenient ,, ppl will start doing it and playing dumb when they get caught...
which is why i always record and download demos of every warning that is severe.

as for treehoe... granted a perma might seem a long time, but it is up to clan now, he was warned before, whether he remembers or not. thats his problem.

so IF the clan deems to not perma ban him , which i doubt, but give him a month or so ban and keep and eye on him, i wouldnt be against that either, bcos i dnt give a fuck about whether he stays or not. its up to maynard to punish on these rules broken.
a severe punishment MUST be given.. how severe depends on clan.
i think by the end of a month he would have learned never to do it again knowing that if he showed any sign of "illegal" activity, he;s be perma banned on the spot, without the ability to request unban?

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i didnt explain anything, i jokingly asked you what the admins views were on "letting someone kill you" and yes for that map i wasnt using my ult as a vagabond. that doesnt mean i was letting someone kill me. In all honesty Why would i boost people i dont know at my own expense? I have done no ammount of xp farming beside the few plant exchanges with bigboss. I Would view this as a first offence and would even accept the punishment of a week or month ban. Ive been respectful, to every admin and in regards to rules, have broke non say this xp exploit accused on Dust. Ive been playing the server just like anyone else and no one have ever had a problem with me. I even thought of myself as one of the more manner players there. But i guess if its staying a perma ban i wont argue with you guys. Thanks for letting me play the server for the time i had, was fun.

again, a perma is up to clan. i personally would have banned u for a month ban first to be honest instead of brett's 1 day ban, and trust me, thats VERY minimal to what i usually ban ppl for ... and then you would be perma banned if clan deemed fit.
simply because i actually enjoy ur hacking ass in game, but you would still be
but other than that, feelings aside, u fucked up.
i wish u luck, but u just confirmed what i mentionned above , that u were playing "weak" and becoming an easier target, hence why i asked maynard about it because there was nthn mentionned before about someone WANTING to get killed in game ...
and ur answer was provided above to such behaviour, then u went on to level farming a bomb...

i;d still slap him a month ban
just to give me the pleasure of banning u myself when i prove ur toggling aim-assisting ass. and for shits and giggles
true story ^
but as for ur current ban made by clan, you're most likely not go out that easy.
perma is the standard punishment, the punishment your actions deserve. if clan decide to go easy on u (i mean REALLY easy) then you;d get at least a month ban, but i wouldnt hold my breath yet...

edit: nway , i said what i was asked to confirm. im going back i ngame, im not responding directly, maybe later. u guys have my steam if u need me.

[Treehoe]

But how does playing a Race without using its ultimate cause for xp boosting? that would be the same as me not teleporting on human, or not going invis as a rap. That in no was would indicate that im giving out Xp to other players, just trying to use the race minus a skill. Even in that game my skillpoints were respent to max all but my ult. So claiming i was "an easier target" maybe be true, but they no way indicates i was purposely setting myself up to fail. I cant see how that counts as a warning when i had nothing to gain from it. Im not asking to Undo the ban at this point. I jsut want people to realize this is my actual first offence. Ive seen no rule on having to use all skills a race provides. Ive even run "No Race" on the server from time to time.


and, Sorry Cyber, i went back and reread what you posted, could i please see what you read this from? cause if i were to find the demo, you would see what it wasnt only 1 person on the enemy team killing me, so the statement that i was letting "a Friend" kill me becomes invalid. not to mention that i was still playing that game, not using my ult, but still playing the game.

[Assassin]

As to your 90% of the people like me...no. You and bigboss blast on the mic and spam most of the time when an admin isn't on. Even when they are on your ADD having ass just talks at about 2/3 your normal. Like they said clan will decide until then just wait.

[Treehoe]

Also i would like to note, it was disscussed prior to the 2nd round starting in steam chat to plant/defuse. ( yes im admitting to breaking the rule)
so by "planned in advance" yes it was, by about a minute.

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let me also add that tree and bigboss seemed to have this planned out. they didn't have to discuss it or anything, just did it as if it was business as usual. that tells me it's not the first time they've done this, but i don't have demos of the other times.
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And that is because there are no demos besides this one, it has never been done by myself or bigboss prior to this event.