Next time someone bitches about impalance

[Chikun]

Trust me, I'm not playing offensively - I normally camp around the objective, but on some maps they can easily spot you even if you go straight to a place and use your ultimate. Furthermore, if they have a lace and they're at least decent, you're fucked most of the time.

Stop using your ultimate at ground level, if you're going to tell me that the other team is going to advance down pathways at the start of a round looking at the sky trying to find you... I just don't know what to say.

There are only a few outcomes to this:
1.) You're repeating your tactic by going to the same spot (your fault)
2.) You're advancing too far and they saw your ultimate through a wall (your fault)

When you say you "normally camp the objective" that leads me to believe you chose option 1. A solution to this is to hide in the air on a path to the objective rather than at the objective and vary your travel distance each round. When you ambush someone, you do it before they get to their destination, not after.

have yet to see a rap being played well on any map by anyone. Have yet to see SOMEONE play rap, the race is underplayed and pretty useless period, anyone that would even argue this clearly doesn't play enough on the server or is thinking of a different race.

You are beyond saving with logic. I'm sorry, I'm so, so, sorry.

[HypeRNT]

Stop using your ultimate at ground level, if you're going to tell me that the other team is going to advance down pathways at the start of a round looking at the sky trying to find you... I just don't know what to say.

There are only a few outcomes to this:
1.) You're repeating your tactic by going to the same spot (your fault)
2.) You're advancing too far and they saw your ultimate through a wall (your fault)

When you say you "normally camp the objective" that leads me to believe you chose option 1. A solution to this is to hide in the air on a path to the objective rather than at the objective and vary your travel distance each round. When you ambush someone, you do it before they get to their destination, not after.



You are beyond saving with logic. I'm sorry, I'm so, so, sorry.

Oh please almighty god, please shine your light of wisdom upon me and try to teach me how to play the game since u r clearly so good. Please let me know your guide to proscallion keys to victory, i cant wait, list them step by step and sell the guide on ebay, rich overnight.

[brett friggin favre]

rap isn't underpowered, however it is easily countered by skill, awareness, and anticipation. it takes a sharp mind and a good eye for hiding spots to be successful with it. you have to anticipate where the enemy's going to go, where they're going to look, how many there will be, and you need to be somewhere they won't look and that has an easily accessible exit route.

[Chikun]

Oh please almighty god, please shine your light of wisdom upon me and try to teach me how to play the game since u r clearly so good. Please let me know your guide to proscallion keys to victory, i cant wait, list them step by step and sell the guide on ebay, rich overnight.

If you read that first part I posted you would be off to a good start. But as Brett said, it can be easily countered unless you can avoid getting stuck.

[Blackmage]

We have a number of people who can use it well.

But here are the tips I use: don't camp right on the hosties or bomb, as you said, a necklace can end you. Do it a couple of yards out. Try to do it above eye level, not at. Know when there are enemies around, so you don't get seen. If you need to, just hide uncloaked. Don't hide in the same places. Don't hide in the middle of the path, hide off the side, so you have sight. Do not hide in normal camping spots. Learn when there are people you just don't want to chase, wait for the next person.

Oh look, most of this is what Chikun said.... Amazing....

[HypeRNT]

We have a number of people who can use it well.

But here are the tips I use: don't camp right on the hosties or bomb, as you said, a necklace can end you. Do it a couple of yards out. Try to do it above eye level, not at. Know when there are enemies around, so you don't get seen. If you need to, just hide uncloaked. Don't hide in the same places. Don't hide in the middle of the path, hide off the side, so you have sight. Do not hide in normal camping spots. Learn when there are people you just don't want to chase, wait for the next person.

Oh look, most of this is what Chikun said.... Amazing....

Who r these *number of people* that you are speaking of? first of all, i havent seen u or half the peopel that posted in this thread playing in the server or even using the race, second, the race is way underpowered, it has a high level requirement for some odd reason, a crit blade that basically never crits, and an ult that reveals your position thru walls*lawl* now you can say as much as you want about how AWESOME this race is and how you just need to be "GOOD" and "SMART" to play it, but at the end of the day, the race is the weakest of the knife races, and the weakest race in the server period, and this is shown by peoples kdr and lack of playing time with it.

[Blackmage]

I believe it's Wolf is the main one. There are a few. Cyber might have been another. If Spasm wasn't I'd be surprised. I can go positive with it. Problem is, if I wanted to play a defensive class, I'd play Human. Being a defensive class, most people won't play it, because most people on our server are heavy offensive, and we have a plethora of those, including other knife races. If they want to knife, there are around six gun races that can knife with the best, as well as the other knife races being offensive as well.

I don't pay attention to many players who play a variety of races, I just know people who are good at the game.

The crit is quite powerful. I'd prefer if it was x4 instead of only x3, but x3 one hits most races, even if they have periapt of health.

As for power, it is comparable to flame pred. Same speed, an alternate camouflage ability. His damage ability kills, Preds slows. Weapon Drop and Full invisibility both are special abilities. You just need to play the race correctly. Flame pred requires approaching them, Raps waits for the approach. Weakest depends on what you mean. Pano is similarly "weak". Shadow of the Void is a gimmick race. Warden is easily shut down. Low KDR and lack of play is due to people not wanting to play/learn it. It's actually been played almost 16 hours the past two days.

THE ULTIMATE IS NOT MEANT TO BE SPAMMED! YOU USE IT TO GET INTO POSITION WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND! As such, the fact that it is visible through walls is something that requires it to be played right, something we could use for another race *cough*. Another point: this can be used to bait.

As for "seeing us", you play between 8:00 and 22:00. I play between 23:00 and 4:00, with a few exceptions, and have very limited weekend play time. In fact, my 16 hours the past week beats your 12. Then, Stars plays 22:00-6:00. We just don't play at the same time. Brett and Chikun haven't played much in the past couple weeks, however. BTW: You Me Stars On the other hand, if you just don't remember playing with, you've just forgotten, I've played with you a number of times in the past.

[Chikun]

I think this weekend I'll play Rap and see how I do. It might be worth posting a demo. That also gives me an idea for future scrims.

[StarsMine]

hyperrnt.... o.o wow fail post is fail
everyone in this topic are wcs players.

I have a problem calling rapscallion a "defensive" class when It has no defensive skills. He cant back out and hide, as soon as he is found he is fucked, he has 100hp, easily killed, crit is fucking useless with the proc rate so low, its dumb luck getting a kill with it, not skill. The fact that you have to just sit there and hope they have to both run into you and get proced on makes for a terrible race. Its not that people dont know how to play it, its just a terrible race. For a race that has been out for as long as it has been, the average kdr being .5 is just really bad.

http://www.ibisgaming.com/wcs_stats/player.php?id=17387
The ONLY race rapscallion has a chance against is another rapscallion, with a 1.0 KD (could it be anything else?), unless you count no race, but thats usually playeed by people who dont know how to pick a race.


The stats dont lie here. Its not that people dont know how to play it, its that even playing it "properly" you cant get a decent score.

[Masskid]

I wouldn't really call it at "defensive" class, more like an ambushing class... It relys on surprise more then any other class