Supernatural Mafia

[kionay]

demon seems most likely to me, the lore twist of the roles is fun

werewolves in the show didn't usually run in packs (unlike vampires) and if i recall correctly they're always found one by one (with that one exception of the video recording kids)

it's late, i'll be back on tomorrow morning

[Blackmage]

First, as we found with Stan, be VERY careful when assuming things with What's words.

The death is most likely a demon, or at the very least scum. The suggestion of something else was in case we had something like Balthazar as a Vig. Or one of a variety of deities.

As I mentioned before. Sin's not dead. Not sure if he's telling the truth, leaving something out, or made a ballsy play claiming Rufus first. If it worked, it would be the perfect cover. I could convince myself either way currently, but I'm still leaning towards him being safe enough for now. I certainly hope he's clean, because he was actually trying to help the town, along with Pass, during the Stan voting.

With Brett, he's the same as any dead 3rd party. Be careful with what he said, while he wanted the mafia dead, he felt the same about the town.

Cyber, were these comments "And this means that it might not be a humans vs demons/angels setup, but could be a mix, just like the show does. Not that I can confirm this theory personally, but it should be mentioned, seeing how ppl assumed it was guards vs inmates in prisonbreak." really as innocent as you suggest, or not? I assume you wouldn't be trying to out yourself as a werewolf, and I make these kind of claims too, but felt like asking if you had anything to share.

On the vote for Stan, I'm looking at 4 people. Mikey, Jesus and Kion who were the morning voters who ended it and Scribble, who was aggressively pushing for an end to voting before Stan could fully claim. Voting went on for about 17 hours after his edit, and 14 hours after it was confirmed he was staying. Those final 3 votes took 30 minutes to happen, with the last vote before them occurring more than 12 hours prior. If we accept this as a policy lynch, ok, we made a bad play. OB was the first to vote Stan, and just waffled an hour prior, and Mikey's vote was somewhat safe, but both of them were suggesting they were just trying to end the day, which is why I included them.

On werewolves, the video recording kids you mentioned were turned by the late professor. So, while they were not often packs, we may have found a pack.

If you noticed I didn't mention Nem yet in this post, there's a reason for that. I'm just going to let someone else play with that particular can of worms first.

[CYBER]

OK. A fucking notepad wall is coming, stfu and read it lol.

SO what did we get from those events:

• my initial guess about stan being VT was only partially true. A deputy IS technically a VT unless the cop dies. so eh.
• UNLESS What is bastard modding, which he claims he isn't, then we can definitely assume we are dealing with a Cop investigating ppl and shit this game. This might be supported by the "someone was looking for answers" flavor text.
• I knew something was fishy with brett and that whole "yeah i dont believe nemesis, but i'ma keep on stan nomatter..." still didn't make sense till now.
• In all honesty the way i understood that role is that he's the third party guy, and for balancing purposes on a 15 player platform, my guess would be a similar layout to my previous game, with a third party and 3 mafia players...As i personally have yet to see the werewolf role in a team... it would be a conflict among the team of "yo i wanna kill that claimed, no i want to" etc...

• We KNOW that Brett KNEW all the roles in the game, because werewolves know that.. Now the question is... Why didn't anyone OTHER than brett die this night? it clearly wasn't protections saving them...Either Brett decided to follow the Epicmafia guide and did NOT try to guess a player out and gamble on being revealed day 1... OR he actually tried to gamble on killing someone who claimed... basically the ONE player other than Stan who "claimed" ... aka Sin..

• Now this is where the guess work comes in... Did he NOT try to kill sin just to lay low?
• Did he NOT attack Sin, the CLAIMED FREE KILL VT because it wasn't worth it?
• Did he not attack sin because he KNEW the roles out there... and felt it was too risky? (the flavor suggests either a bulletproof or a bodyguard... the latter would basically RAPE a werewolf if he tried to devour a person that gets redirected to a bodyguard... but the flavor suggests that any protection that night was in vain, on ppl that weren't involved in the kill/death, on people who probably weren't attacked due to the "mindlessly getting divine protection" or wtvr the fuck What wrote in his flavor text, dnt feel like loading another page.)
• Did brett TRY to kill sin and guess VT TOWN... but be surprised he... you know.. WASNT? (note that if that was the case, that means that Sin's been lying to us about his claim this entire time...)

• As for divine protection... this is more and more sounding like a "angel" "faith healer" or some shit... and if it's the cass (it's a pun on "and if its the case" shut up), then i'm gonna have to start trusting in a certain player from now... maybe.

• One question... What were the fucking odds that "mafia" hits the 3rd party AGAIN on day 1....(it feels like a mafia demonic style hit to me, instead of a Vig kill.... probably lead by a Crowley Godfather, if i were to bet my money on it.) . Satan himself could be the leader of mafia as he was a main issue early on... but knowing What... What LOVES crowley and believes he's a fucking badass character, almost as badass as what What thinks of Dean lol, but yeah, i'm willing to put my money on What giving Crowley the spotlight here for leader spot. Long Live The King.

• Good news is that we DO NOT have a double voter, self hammerer, forced lynchers etc... as it took all votes to complete the lynch... A lynch that if you ask me, was DUMB AS FUCK. and people who bussed it have either not idea how bad policy lynches are... OR are scum.

• These are just quick pre-bedtime notes about what i could understand from what we gatherered. Knowing What, he might throw a couple flavor quotes in his scenes... I haven't watched the old supernatural in years as i'm only watching the new ones, but if someone recognizes a scene quote from a character, please make sure to let us know, or else i'm gonna have to manually google each damn set of words until i get smthn juicy to share..

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OK. A fucking notepad wall is coming, stfu and read it lol.

SO what did we get from those events:

• my initial guess about stan being VT was only partially true. A deputy IS technically a VT unless the cop dies. so eh.
• UNLESS What is bastard modding, which he claims he isn't, then we can definitely assume we are dealing with a Cop investigating ppl and shit this game. This might be supported by the "someone was looking for answers" flavor text.
• I knew something was fishy with brett and that whole "yeah i dont believe nemesis, but i'ma keep on stan nomatter..." still didn't make sense till now.
• In all honesty the way i understood that role is that he's the third party guy, and for balancing purposes on a 15 player platform, my guess would be a similar layout to my previous game, with a third party and 3 mafia players...As i personally have yet to see the werewolf role in a team... it would be a conflict among the team of "yo i wanna kill that claimed, no i want to" etc...

• We KNOW that Brett KNEW all the roles in the game, because werewolves know that.. Now the question is... Why didn't anyone OTHER than brett die this night? it clearly wasn't protections saving them...Either Brett decided to follow the Epicmafia guide and did NOT try to guess a player out and gamble on being revealed day 1... OR he actually tried to gamble on killing someone who claimed... basically the ONE player other than Stan who "claimed" ... aka Sin..

• Now this is where the guess work comes in... Did he NOT try to kill sin just to lay low?
• Did he NOT attack Sin, the CLAIMED FREE KILL VT because it wasn't worth it?
• Did he not attack sin because he KNEW the roles out there... and felt it was too risky? (the flavor suggests either a bulletproof or a bodyguard... the latter would basically RAPE a werewolf if he tried to devour a person that gets redirected to a bodyguard... but the flavor suggests that any protection that night was in vain, on ppl that weren't involved in the kill/death, on people who probably weren't attacked due to the "mindlessly getting divine protection" or wtvr the fuck What wrote in his flavor text, dnt feel like loading another page.)
• Did brett TRY to kill sin and guess VT TOWN... but be surprised he... you know.. WASNT? (note that if that was the case, that means that Sin's been lying to us about his claim this entire time...)

• As for divine protection... this is more and more sounding like a "angel" "faith healer" or some shit... and if it's the cass (it's a pun on "and if its the case" shut up), then i'm gonna have to start trusting in a certain player from now... maybe.

• One question... What were the fucking odds that "mafia" hits the 3rd party AGAIN on day 1....(it feels like a mafia demonic style hit to me, instead of a Vig kill.... probably lead by a Crowley Godfather, if i were to bet my money on it.) . Satan himself could be the leader of mafia as he was a main issue early on... but knowing What... What LOVES crowley and believes he's a fucking badass character, almost as badass as what What thinks of Dean lol, but yeah, i'm willing to put my money on What giving Crowley the spotlight here for leader spot. Long Live The King.

• Good news is that we DO NOT have a double voter, self hammerer, forced lynchers etc... as it took all votes to complete the lynch... A lynch that if you ask me, was DUMB AS FUCK. and people who bussed it have either not idea how bad policy lynches are... OR are scum.

• These are just quick pre-bedtime notes about what i could understand from what we gatherered. Knowing What, he might throw a couple flavor quotes in his scenes... I haven't watched the old supernatural in years as i'm only watching the new ones, but if someone recognizes a scene quote from a character, please make sure to let us know, or else i'm gonna have to manually google each damn set of words until i get smthn juicy to share..

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son of a bitch posted my thing twice... i swear my walls are shorter than blackmages in those games! -.-

[CYBER]

Cyber, were these comments "And this means that it might not be a humans vs demons/angels setup, but could be a mix, just like the show does. Not that I can confirm this theory personally, but it should be mentioned, seeing how ppl assumed it was guards vs inmates in prisonbreak." really as innocent as you suggest, or not? I assume you wouldn't be trying to out yourself as a werewolf, and I make these kind of claims too, but felt like asking if you had anything to share.

figure'd you'd catch that hint. Was trying to let out that I was a human. in hopes that someone can subtly hint back if they ARE a demon AND town sided or angels and town sided.

But i let go of it after thinking that most likely any "angels" in the game will probably be just Cass, and if he's a doctor/healer, i wouldn't want them putting that info out there...


REMEMBER people, at this point there's still a very slim chance there could still be another werewolf, but for balancing issues i doubt it. But if that were the case, dont be idiots and start claiming shit left and right, bcos werewolves can know if u fake claimed or claimed right... and u'd be an easy target for wolves... not to mention the earlier comments about claiming VT roles only narrowing down the power players for mafia....



For the record, some of us could have possibly soft flavour claimed already. But now more than ever we need to keep things under wraps, and not claim unless in dire situations which will be observed for scummy bussing.

[Passarelli]

The odds depend on the amount of pro-townies in the game. Using your postulated 3 mafia, 1 third party and 14 people available there was a 1/11 chance or 9% chance. Pretty low but crazier things have happened.

Blackmage, I appreciate your breakdown of the votes since I'm still a nub at this.

If you noticed I didn't mention Nem yet in this post, there's a reason for that. I'm just going to let someone else play with that particular can of worms first.

Are you guessing the cop likely investigated him? That would make sense as he is the person most people considered scummy. I do indeed hope he was cleared and that I was wrong--that would mean Stan getting lynched wasn't in vain as it saved Nem. Then again, I just hope the cop isn't nuts.

[Passarelli]

Also, since there was a hard claim by Sin day 1 and he survived a werewolf attempt it would throw doubt on the claim--however I see it as more likely that Brett decided to save him for a easy snack later on if suspicion would have fallen on him if we are using the epic version. I agree with Cyber that it is likely that there is only been one 3rd party in this setup, but we should still be wary of claiming.

[Sin]

So where I'm a bit confused on the WW bit is, if all werewolves know everyones roles, and if Brett tried to eat me, why wouldn't I be dead? Are you insinuating that I'm the Bulletproof role? That would be fucking awesome, to be honest, but in that case wouldn't Brett already know that information and try to eat someone else?

I mean obviously Mafia killed Brett, because if he's the only 3rd Party then he just chose not to eat someone for dinner.

Also, from that flavor text I got Telekinesis as the "weapon" of choice. Don't all Demons, Angels and Horsemen have that ability? I'd say ruling the Horsemen out is an easy choice since they were brought out by Lucifer in the show, and didn't WANT to help him with the Apocalypse, but were forced to.

And I still think the Leviathian guy Dick Roman is here, which means he didn't make the kill cuz that character doesn't have mindbullet powers.

And why do we think the Deputy was scum-sided? Wasn't that character turned into a werewolf? Haha would have been cool if Brett turned Stan into a werewolf.

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OH yeah and that point on Scribble pushing the day along was good.

P.S.: I still think Nemesis is a scumbag.

[kionay]

P.S.: I still think Nemesis is a scumbag.

i thought so too but after i kinda hinted at him acting scummy and such he seemed to calm down, and seems to genuinly give a shit about not killing a power role which would suggest townie to me, but i digress


and black mage i ended it because i was getting tired of the "well it's day 1 so it's all speculation" blah blah blah going in circles and when we killed a deputy (possibly town sided) i kinda facepalmed :-/

p.s. i think since it's garth he shoulda been a Texas Ranger [Deputy] for lols XD

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

Why do some of you not think stan was town sided? It says it right in the flavor.... garth, TOWN deputy.

alot of speculation going on. Does anyone have info beyomd s8ns claim and the flavor text for nights end?

[Sin]

Why do some of you not think stan was town sided? It says it right in the flavor.... garth, TOWN deputy.

alot of speculation going on. Does anyone have info beyomd s8ns claim and the flavor text for nights end?

Idk why, but I guess they think that the deputy may have been a Traitor to town. And nope that's all we know, because you faggots lynched Stan. Fucking idiots.