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No one. My problem is "I am 90% sure rosie was holding out". If he thought that Rosie should be looked at, hammering instead of getting us to look at Rosie seems like an odd train of thought. Not saying he's protecting anyone, just that if we were looking at someone who was "holding out" maybe we should look at the one who was in a rush.
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Throwing stones in glass houses and all that.
Originally Posted by ZERO
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This whole useless target of Cyber is killing me. So as long as you guys have played the game, someone pushing for something isn't odd? To me, not investigating the person pushing the issue that hard seems odd. I am happy that Cyber is town, I at least know I have one person I am aligned with.
Had someone investigated me, you would know.
I was holding out! Should I have said oh btw, I have a one shot lie detector...Oh great Cyber who should I target, since you are in charge. WTF!
For fucks sake if Cyber would have come up scum, it would have been move of the game.
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If he was/is scum, he wouldn't have risked pushi g that action in the chance he waa targeted unless there was a deflector/redirector in play which is something that should have been considered. It was not a complete loss that you targeted him but using the opportunity to target someone everyone else is suspicious of would have been more useful. You could have chosen me or trig as we had trains on us when cyber did not. Doing so would have been a much more favorable course of action among the players who ran said trains.
Blackmage, I would say you are grasping at straws with how you continue to harp on me for pushing for an investigation. What about the other people I suggested, or are you avoiding putting any attention on them? I thought blade was scum from the start. Why risk taking an easy lynch on someone who was definitely not town to push on someone who could have been town when I could suggest that the investigator check him out.
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First paragraph directed at rosie.
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Hmm.
Vote Trigger Unhappy
Also fos Rosie.
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My talking about this investigation involves me bringing it up, then my answering your own question, and finally clarifying something Cyber asked. Given answering things I ask is something I complain others don't do, you seem oddly defensive. Did I press a button?
On the other people, yeah, I'm not talking about them. However, other people are pushing other people. Rather than your plan of trying to push half the game, I'm sticking with my guns until I have any reason to change my mind. Only one I'm considering Town for now is Cyber. While it could be a gambit he and Rosie worked on, the more simple idea is Rosie is telling the truth. Either as a lie detector, or mafia.
As for the last question, well, turns out you were wrong. Blade was third party, not scum. I, for one, would rather scum hunt then wasting the town's weapon on someone because they "aren't town". But, this is mostly a difference of play style.
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Not town=threat to town
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Defending my actions/reasoning against someone questioning my motives is oddly defensive?
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Cyber-esque wall of text incoming:
In all honesty, I'm probablt about 90% drunk right now but I'm checking back on this to see how the debate has progressed. This paagraph was about the only thing that caught my attention from what you said and the reason was the potential Cyber/Rosie relation, where one could clear the other. When Rosie claimed Lie Detector, I was suspicious as fuck because it's just too convenient. That said, I looked back on what Cyber wrote and he seems to be following a clearly-town path with his suspicions. I don't know if that's necessarily the case, it's just what I suspect. Anyway, this does not in any way clear Rosie, since Rosie could still be basing their claim on the fact that they know town is searching for a Lie Detector and the fact that they know (since they know their partner) that Cyber is town. In any case, Cyber raises no red flags and so, is in my opinion, town. That said, I'd like for any kind of doctor role to protect Cyber for obvious reasons. I don't much like his style of play (in the same [although for different reasons] way others have criticized my own style of play), but I do genuinely believe he is town.
Whatever 'meta' this is aside, I feel that too many have boarded the Scribble wagon for Scribble to be considered a part of the mafia, and thus, my two 'clears' are Cyber and Scribble. I know mafia can act, but given the circumstances, I don't believe this is the case. Now, that brings the pool down to 3 people plus myself, with Blackmage clearing himself (IN MY OPINION) by unvoting Scribble once the wagon (which, if I may point out, began with Trig and Rosie) had almost gotten him (Scribble) lynched. If there is any foul play, from what I've seen, it's from Trig (continuously, I may add) and from Rosie.
Now, I suppose, the only thing that comes into question is my own validity. I am town. I know, anyone, regardless of alignment, would claim that. I honestly don't care. You can choose to believe me or not, you can twist my words whichever way you choose, but in the end, I am still town. If you bring me to L-2, I will claim my role -- I only hope, for town's sake, that it doesn't come to this.
Take my deductions with a grain of salt if you want. This is what I perceive.
Also, as I said before, I'm drunk as fuck. I'll see you all in the morning (or afternoon, I guess).
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People's Current Votes
Blackmage - none
Trigger - Scrib
Rosie - none
Zambi - Trig
Scribble - none
Cyber - none
I hit Brett right in the feels.
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Also a sidenote, I am leaving the country in eight days and will not be able to continue to mod after that. The game does not necessarily need to end by then, but Pass would have to take over full responsibility at that point.
I hit Brett right in the feels.
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God help you all.
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