Too many wrongful bans on legit players.

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

Why don't you faggots stop crying for once in your lives !

[Carina]

I also feel that you really need to be pretty good at cs and lots of experience just to be able to actually spot a hacker. I suggested the non perma ban hacker thing in a different thread and I got some negative responses from more senior admins (namely maynard). He pointed out that it hackers need to be banned perma, we just need to be able to spot them better. Which I do agree with him.

I really think unless the hacks are really obvious, like screen jerking and shaking while headshot left and right, basically shooting through objects to own people, you know REAL obvious hacks. I think it should be put in ban requests. The community could then watch the demo and share opinions on whether it was hacks or not.

You dont have to be good at CS just to spot a hacker.. I think I do a pretty good job on spotting a hacker and im definitely not a good CS player..

and I personally never ban a person unless im 110% on that he/she is hacking.. and IF i ban the person its only for MAX 2 days and then i make a "ban request" on the person and then you guys can deside if it needs to be a perma ban insted.. and if i dont ban the person and he/she joins again i go to spec and keep on watching him..

I said it earlier I will say it again because obviously you didn't read my post; you never have been good enough at CS to have idiots (and that includes ibis regulars) claiming you are hacking.

Personal attack?
James is better then I am, and even I have been called a hacker in WCS.. and I actually almost got banned (thanks to BS i didnt)

they accused me of aimbot and walls, until they realised it was me. ( I was under the name QQ, and after I won going like 26-3, next map I changed my name back because they went and got an admin to ban me LMAO)

i remember that.. i laughed my ass off.. very funny shit lol

I'd like to +1 this entire post, pretty much. I've been banned from probably 20+ servers in my CS career for hacking, and been accused in countless others - like I said before, I have doubts about what would happen to me if I weren't an admin.

I understand new admins not knowing how to handle their power - how can you expect them to know, if they've never been taught? On the other hand, the continued tolerance and lack of care from the leadership is disconcerting. What does it matter if we ban good players for no reason, if they can be unbanned in a couple months? No harm done, right? Wrong. It's harmful to the community in the extreme, and ultimately will lead to the good players leaving out of disgust, if not by being banned.

We need more checks against poor bans. There have been numerous suggestions, most of which are good. Supposedly there is even something in the works in the form of the seniority system, but that's a good while off I should think, seeing as ZERO has limited time and it is tied into a forum upgrade. We need a solution now. Stop hurting the community by turning a blind eye to admins making poor decisions.

+1

[Spasm]

You dont have to be good at CS just to spot a hacker.. I think I do a pretty good job on spotting a hacker and im definitely not a good CS player..

and I personally never ban a person unless im 110% on that he/she is hacking.. and IF i ban the person its only for MAX 2 days and then i make a "ban request" on the person and then you guys can deside if it needs to be a perma ban insted.. and if i dont ban the person and he/she joins again i go to spec and keep on watching him..



Personal attack?
James is better then I am, and even I have been called a hacker in WCS.. and I actually almost got banned (thanks to BS i didnt)



i remember that.. i laughed my ass off.. very funny shit lol




+1

I really thank you need to be pretty decent, some bans on wall hackers is really just lack of knowledge of radar, or lack of knowledge of knowing the map, lack of knowledge on sound.

It wasn't a personal attack, the reason why he sees things different because he has never been in our shoes, being accused of hacking when your not. It's funny at the time until you get banned, thats when it is no longer funny and it sucks.

I have used the id QQ over the past year or so randomly, the case where you was on was a different time, that was back before I had admin.

James I do appreciate you going and at least taking the time out of your day to look at the ban requests and bans and admin abuse and what ever else you do.

Hey NYS, don't hate. You need to come into pub and play. Been a while.

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I think u guys all make powerful points...but really thats y we have a community..we all have to just keep each other in check. Example: If u see somebody ban for stupid reasons y dont u take the time and tell them or suggest that it wasnt worth banning..like i was saying though ultimatly its just going to come down to us keeping one another on the right path..


P.s thats y we have the forums (we need the drama)

[Christmas]

Why don't you faggots stop crying for once in your lives !

Hey, how about your mom.

[DJ_MikeyRevile]

hey, how about your mom.

tastes better with pepperoni

[Carina]

I really thank you need to be pretty decent, some bans on wall hackers is really just lack of knowledge of radar, or lack of knowledge of knowing the map, lack of knowledge on sound.

hmm if i understood that right.. you either just called me a decent player or in a way told me to stop looking for hackers because im not a good CS player so there is no way i can spot a hacker...?

and again.. you dont have to be a good/decent player to know about the radar, or knowing the map and the fact that you easily hear the sounds..
i use radar all the time, i know all the maps and i lissen to the sounds.. and once again i dont consider my self a good/decent player..

[-=NYS=- C.O.]

Hey, how about your mom.

Shut up you Toastie lover !!

[Spasm]

hmm if i understood that right.. you either just called me a decent player or in a way told me to stop looking for hackers because im not a good CS player so there is no way i can spot a hacker...?

and again.. you dont have to be a good/decent player to know about the radar, or knowing the map and the fact that you easily hear the sounds..
i use radar all the time, i know all the maps and i lissen to the sounds.. and once again i dont consider my self a good/decent player..

Go watch some of those demos of "wall hackers" and everything that is "fishy or suspicious" can be attributed to one of those factors, and carina I think your decent at CS.

[Carina]

Go watch some of those demos of "wall hackers" and everything that is "fishy or suspicious" can be attributed to one of those factors, and carina I think your decent at CS.

well i agree with you there.. but that doenst mean you have to be good/decent at CS to see that..

and thanks Spasm.. so sweet <3