Great idea, and thanks Anex for supporting it. That deployment money is burning your pocket. I think having server based admin teams would be fun. ZM vs GG in WCS! Winner takes on the WCS admins?
I'd participate!
I wouldn't
Anex , thats a very noble gesture in deed , but i was also brought up to be a very supportive guy to friends, and im also willing to donate to you/ibis and support a month reserve slot for 1-2 entire teams that wins for regulars, each month, in order to have this idea grow.
I would also believe that if this idea should grow strong, perhaps one might consider having a wcs server dedicated for 5 on 5 scrimming only?
A server dedicated for pre-made teams of 5 that join, and their 'rank' is the team rank (amount wins?) .. And use that server for the tournaments one day?
(im talking about long term, where that server would be known for all wcs communities to perhaps be the only wcs dedicated for scrim? I think this server would be severely reserved for games. )
Also, i talked to maynard, whoever said its gonna be maxxed races is wrong, the current races each individual player has leveled and acquired would be transfered from the regular server to that server, and each plays using his own shit.
It will also be monitored by maynard and anex only (ie no random spectators, god i wish there was sourcetv for that game) and the test server would be locked with a password.
The teams would be first come first served, and its gonna be random team repartition to limit the chances of stacking.
I hope i didnt mess up the information, this is what i heard from maynard, in order to avoid redundant questions![]()
Amazing idea, nicely done. Have you thought about certain rules for this to keep the tournament civilized and balanced?
Im mainly talking about 5v5 rules as to who can play what maps and what races.
Would putting a limit on spider man on 1 per team make this better? I was thinking it would take more skill because you would have to choose who plays this race more carefully, meaning it would take more teamwork for your 5 man team in deciding who plays what race if there is a limit just for the tournament.
Aswell as having a limit on blood mages and eye ra races to 1 per team. Making it much harder for people to pick who plays what races so it does not get wasted and is put to good use.
Also, is there a WCS teamspeak/vent that will be available for use for this tournament or can we use our own? or is it even allowed?
This tournament sounds like a great idea and will be alot of fun for the people that get on it. Great community builder.
Well not neccessarily take on WCS admins, but prerequisites can change to reflect activity in other servers. So like the prerequisite in APR in a minimum of 10 hours in the wcs server. May will be the same thing. Jun however it could be like a minimum of a certain amount of skill points in ZM or hours logged in GG, so players will be rounded in all the IBIS servers.... and yes its burning my pocket.
If you want to donate man, that would be very helpful. If zero is willing to have two scrim servers setup then donations can be little to help pay for the prizes. With the minimum of $12 to $55 when we do that 5v5. If that is not the case than as I said before there will be two permanent scrim servers 13 slot servers (10 for players 3 for spectators). Each comes with its own ventrillo server. After this one, the scrims will be 5v5.
Yes, maxxed races is wrong. Each individual will have their own level and classes that they have in the IBIS WCS server. It will be monitored by Zero? Maynard, and myself. Zero has said that he is going to have a sourctv like thing up to allow people to watch the match with a 30 second delay. Servers are going to be with a password and it is first come first server with teams matched to avoid stacking.
I've decided not to limit (server limits should already apply EX. Vagabond) individual classes such as spider man (really not that good since it got nerfed to hell and back), blood mage, and eye ra. Eye ra can be easily countered by items you can buy from the wcsstore and having multiple blood mages can be wiped people easily. We will see how this goes but not restricting classes should not be a problem.
I have a vent that you guys can use but if you want to use your own then you will be fine. I'll setup two channels, one for both teams, and password protect them for you. Alltalk will be on so if any problems do arise such as cheaters or players breaking rules, it can come to the moderators attention quickly.
we don't really need more vents. we can just have the scrims go into diff channels in our ibis vent, saves money.
Maynard - The WCS Guy
Very nice, do you think that if 5 people decide to go eye ra on round 1 meaning that 5 ults=round ends at 20 second mark when eye ra has their ults up? Like you can counter people, but up to a certain amount, like its hard to counter smart wcs players that would get a ward, or buy a lace so you cant use your ult when summoned or something to that effect. It just leaves less teamwork needed and more to the effect of lets pick 5 of the same race to try to power thru these guys on round 1 so they never catch back up. Maybe forcing people to have certain races selected for their team would add structure, like lets say you require by SAY for teams to have 1 support class as in blood mage per team, making them chose who the IMPORTANT person who can stay alive is to support them long enough to win, this way it would require more teamwork since its a 5v5 making it much harder and interesting, but thats just a thought.
At the same time, a team full of blood mages is like 5 vs 15, you never know how many times you will revive, as well as having 10 spiderman with laces and anti wards in a 5v5 is just scary to think about. Nonetheless sounds like you have this pretty much thought out and i cant wait to try to be apart of it or watch it if i don't make the sign ups .
it's not hard 2 counter eye ra at all, go shadow hunter, or just purchase necklace
Maynard - The WCS Guy
Hyper... Eye rae is limited to 2 for team.
The following things can happen:
1- eye rae fails to summon someone with lace or immunity, or is a vaga/rapscalion that was smart enough to remain stuck when they got summoned.
2- eye rae summons someone that got killed just before he summon succeeds.
3- eye rae summons another eye rae summoning ur teammate to help u ( it happens quite often) then u have an extra partner to help.
4- eye rae summons shadow hunter that wards the living crap out of it while goig invincible ( sure u can buy a lace and anti wards, but its a huge expense, specially on a scrimming budget.
5- eye rae sunmons speed or teleport race that zips away.
6- eye rae summons an nade race, or suicide bomber, or sparks or void and fucks u up.
7- eye rae summons a guy, kills him, guy respawns and kills eye rae.
8- eye rae summons a guy, and gets interrupted by someone else shooting it.
9- eye rae dies roo early in the game to even summon or respawn anyone bcos its not an op class.
10- eye rae tries to summon someone but everyone has neclaces, loosing its element of surprise.
11- two eye rae summon the same guy, rendering one of their ultimates usess...
12- eye rae summons someone and kills them (halleluya) ... Then it has to wait another ~20 secs to doThis all over again, while avoid getting killed, and avoiding camping and within the time limit, before a bomb blows off or gets defused...
What im trying to say is that: there's a shitload of possibilities if u have ONE eye rae on a team, having 2 or more, with the above possibilities multiplied?
Its not really recommended to have too many eye ras... Who'd do that nway?
In my mind, a gd combo would be:
1 vaga That does recon work.
Followed by a spidey tha does some sweeping
Backed up by a molecule/shadowhunter that carries the bomb and shields the weaker races,
An eye rae summoning every 20 secs or a bloodmage/nightelf/athena spamming ultimate protected by molecule.
The last 1 could be any of the above again ( a knife race is too situational), but i might go with a void that may proc its ultimate for a possible insta win, or a crypt lord spamming ult in case someone is guarding bomb, but the better option would be a support human, or a very lucky chameleon for diversity each round.
Heck he last guy could just rotate races based on what the successive plans are..like hopping on dragonfly to get his gun, change race and hop on smthn else needed. Etc...
tl;dr: All i know is that this is gonna be an awesome match.
Last edited by CYBER; 03-25-2012 at 06:09 AM.
When will you find out your team so that there would be time to maybe strat and or get to know some of the team members for those who do get picked.
Edited my post after reading the main thread.