Look, most of you fail to recognize that this is not up for debate. The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties restricting the federal government and empowering the states and people.

This bill is about control and nothing else, if you believe people in power do this crap out of some altruistic love... (kill yourself now)

Lets follow your little pipe dreams though to conclusion ok...
your born you grow up in free government schools, you get a government education for your government job complete with government housing, health insurance, and retirement (ss) and Heck we'll throw in some government transportation too. What else do you need right!

I mean THINK, you want to give Obama all the control but guess what happens in 4/8 years you could get another G.W. Bush! or Hitler for all we know. I bet Hitler loved universal health care. If you want to depend on the Government from cradle to grave (kill yourself now)

Next, the National Debt. The CBO says this HC is budget neutral ok they only looked at the first 10years and that includes yep 10years of taxes of us paying them but only 4-6years of benefits and those 4-6years are suppose to cost 1,000,000,000,000 (non gov't estimates put it around 2-2.5 trillion) ---read back over that bit again try to think about it.

As of right now NOT including the new HC mess We the people owe our Federal government 55,000,000,000,000 think fast you math people that meas you owe personally 350,000 dollars. you wanna write a check for that now or just pass it off onto your children???

Gas. you wouldn't know a libertarian if you were talking to Ron Paul himself.

I know posting in a forum is a waste of time so if you want to have a rational argument and debate at least know what your talking about

start here http://www.usdebtclock.org/
next http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjB...eature=related

and when you feel your ready for a Crash course in Reality
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

HERE IS THE NEXUS WATCH AND LEARN OR STFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOT...sh+div-1r-3-HM