Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy Frufflebottoms View Post
Sorry, Wagner, but you're confusing civil law with criminal law. Torrenting is not a crime. It's not illegal. It's a tort, which is settled in civil court. All of your examples deal with criminal law, permitting law enforcement agencies to take action preliminary to criminal charges. It doesn't work that way in civil law.
i wasn't stating that torrenting itself is illegal, i was stating that copyright infringement is. it is most definitely illegal.

Quote Originally Posted by Superman View Post
No, its not legal, but.... It is not arrestable. Its a civil matter only. One can not go to jail or be prosicuted for it.
i never said it was arrestable, i said that the government has the right to stop such activity whenever it happens. this is at least my view. also if people believe the government is acting illegally or unconstitutionally in any way and act as if they can get their actions reversed or prove them as unlawful, then they have another thing coming. also, as i've said before, torrenting isn't illegal, but some of the things people torrent are. there is no way a torrenting service or even a government agency is going to regulate every single torrent and see if its legal or not. its just a whole lot easier to shut those sites down. i mean who uses torrents for anything other than downloading unlicensed media? yea, almost nobody. its like having a store that sells crack and small amounts of furniture, your'e not gonna say, well we'll just take away the crack and let you guys carry on your business. bad analogy, yes, but still