Zm Rules v3.1

[Meltdown]

The only use of !block in ze is to help some people when they cannot climb a box because there just newbs, I do use block sometimes so people can get over them when we just rly lack the amount of people otherwise to hold the zombies off. But although I don't mind it being removed.

[anex]

Updated to 2.6 to include the map specific rule with ZE_SAW: Humans may not use any vent as a holding/camp point

[Pootie Too Good]

I have a question regarding rank manipulation. It is clearly not allowed that a player may join as a zombie by skipping the tagging process with the intentions of racking up free kills, but i must ask, is it legal for you to sit in spawn, wait for a zombie to tag you as soon as they all turn, and then attack the humans to rack up kills with a +1 death added to it? I would like to point out that this should be considered rank manipulation, because there are certain maps that i see players doing it all the time on, such as ze_Jurassic_Park_Story_v0_9, ze_jurassicpark_v2_7_OB, ze_PotC_v3_4fix, and any escape map in general that the terrorists have a higher win percentage due to the ability of a strong zombie player to catch them.

Recently I've seen players with scores such as 35-6, 34-7, 34-8 and plenty more in that region, because the player was getting tagged as soon as the zombie spawned and then bunny hopped their way to the front of the pack to obtain cheap kills. Very rarely on some of these more challenging escapes can we beat a strong bhopper, but when they intentionally become zombies to go for it, it ruins everyone elses experience. I'd like clearity of this, and if it is considered rank manipulation and or breaking any rules.

[B1ackOut]

I have a question regarding rank manipulation. It is clearly not allowed that a player may join as a zombie by skipping the tagging process with the intentions of racking up free kills, but i must ask, is it legal for you to sit in spawn, wait for a zombie to tag you as soon as they all turn, and then attack the humans to rack up kills with a +1 death added to it? I would like to point out that this should be considered rank manipulation, because there are certain maps that i see players doing it all the time on, such as ze_Jurassic_Park_Story_v0_9, ze_jurassicpark_v2_7_OB, ze_PotC_v3_4fix, and any escape map in general that the terrorists have a higher win percentage due to the ability of a strong zombie player to catch them.

Recently I've seen players with scores such as 35-6, 34-7, 34-8 and plenty more in that region, because the player was getting tagged as soon as the zombie spawned and then bunny hopped their way to the front of the pack to obtain cheap kills. Very rarely on some of these more challenging escapes can we beat a strong bhopper, but when they intentionally become zombies to go for it, it ruins everyone elses experience. I'd like clearity of this, and if it is considered rank manipulation and or breaking any rules.

Its easy remove all escape maps

But seriously for us to ban for this, what should the critera for this be, its easy to go afk stay in spawn and come back as a zombie. Should we handle cases like this by simply collecting evidence over an extended period of time, cause unlike with other servers this really takes more than one map to add up for rank manipulation, cause that is a very serious offence to tag on to simple retardation or afk.

[Bane of Soldiers]

I have a question regarding rank manipulation. It is clearly not allowed that a player may join as a zombie by skipping the tagging process with the intentions of racking up free kills, but i must ask, is it legal for you to sit in spawn, wait for a zombie to tag you as soon as they all turn, and then attack the humans to rack up kills with a +1 death added to it? I would like to point out that this should be considered rank manipulation, because there are certain maps that i see players doing it all the time on, such as ze_Jurassic_Park_Story_v0_9, ze_jurassicpark_v2_7_OB, ze_PotC_v3_4fix, and any escape map in general that the terrorists have a higher win percentage due to the ability of a strong zombie player to catch them.

Recently I've seen players with scores such as 35-6, 34-7, 34-8 and plenty more in that region, because the player was getting tagged as soon as the zombie spawned and then bunny hopped their way to the front of the pack to obtain cheap kills. Very rarely on some of these more challenging escapes can we beat a strong bhopper, but when they intentionally become zombies to go for it, it ruins everyone elses experience. I'd like clearity of this, and if it is considered rank manipulation and or breaking any rules.

Its easy remove all escape maps

But seriously for us to ban for this, what should the critera for this be, its easy to go afk stay in spawn and come back as a zombie. Should we handle cases like this by simply collecting evidence over an extended period of time, cause unlike with other servers this really takes more than one map to add up for rank manipulation, cause that is a very serious offence to tag on to simple retardation or afk.

Yeah, ever since the first case there has been a lot of people throwing around "rank manipulation" accusations... but in all honesty, the first case was settled because it was proven that the defendant was knowingly using a loophole in the system to farm a large amount of kills and/or farm a lot of skill points without dying.


I'm gonna say this for future prosecutors: look at a potential defendant over a period of time to see if it's an exploit that's truly intended... or a player that was just afk

[Pootie Too Good]

Yeah, ever since the first case there has been a lot of people throwing around "rank manipulation" accusations... but in all honesty, the first case was settled because it was proven that the defendant was knowingly using a loophole in the system to farm a large amount of kills and/or farm a lot of skill points.


I'm gonna say this for future prosecutors: look at a potential defendant over a period of time to see if it's an exploit that's truly intended... or a player that was just afk

the situation i describe is blantantly obvious though, players constantly going "afk" in spawn, or even walking towards the first zombie, then coming back to destroy the humans. i dont like giving names, but the other day i was playing and a player who had great bunny hopping skills kept walking in the middle of the 3 pathes on Jurassic Park 2_7, and then continued to kill the humans multiple 4-5 straight rounds, granted that he did recieve first zombie twice in those rounds, but the ones that he didnt, he still got tagged by the first zombie and racked up a ton of kills and won every round before the doors leading to the truck had opened. I have the demo if the example would like to be seen. My arguement towards this is could you imagine the server if every round, pooter and holy sh** would do this? the game would be broken until this was changed.

[Rezel]

It would be categorized under attempting your part on the server though It would be seriously redundant we can't keep adding rules for little things or anything on that matter. The fact of the matter is the more rules we add the more confusing and anarchic it is to enforce them making it extremely hard to have any fun. I do not see how getting yourself tagged on purpose has any downfall other than you have to wait for the first zombie to come by and tag you, it has no extra merits other than your a zombie. I do not understand how your trying to classify this as "Rank Manipulation".... I do not understand either your idea on having to put rules on everything, first it was bunny hopping now its this... Have you ever considered learning to play? There is no reason for you to die to a person who sits back and waits until you get tagged, only other reason i can think of is you don't know how to play or the map sucks.

[Ledgeby]

Lending my 2 cents here, I had a problem with this before. It is quite obvious when this happens as if the player in question is doing it to gain a higher rank then he will not just do it in one round. There are maps that favour zombies sure, but taking advantage of this by intentionally getting tagged is surely rank manipulation

[Rezel]

How is it rank manipulation You have yet to explain to me the benefits of getting yourself tagged by a zombie and then getting other people? Are we going to start classifying getting accidentally tagged by a zombie and then killing your entire rank manip too? Point blank if you wait for a zombie to tag you then your letting the ct's ahead and if your purposely getting tagged while with others more than likely they are going to shot you out.

[Meltdown]

How is it rank manipulation You have yet to explain to me the benefits of getting yourself tagged by a zombie and then getting other people? Are we going to start classifying getting accidentally tagged by a zombie and then killing your entire rank manip too? Point blank if you wait for a zombie to tag you then your letting the ct's ahead and if your purposely getting tagged while with others more than likely they are going to shot you out.

Some people do it on some maps because they know shortcuts wich get them ahead of the humans, like black message escape, and then u got a rape.