Proposed WCS Race Changes

[maynard]

interesting, you mean buying the item that counters shadow hunter means you'll be able to counter shadow hunter?

spasm is not what is being discussed. maymay did not say "shadow hunter is a counter for spasm's molecule". he was making a genrealized statement that is quite true. shadow hunter, if played properly, is a very effective counter for molecule.

.....this ^

[thecat]

No changes for the vagabond LOL.

Maybe 2 seconds of teleportation recharge time would be nice.

[Sin]

No changes for the vagabond LOL.

Maybe 2 seconds of teleportation recharge time would be nice.

You're just bad at melting their faces while they're mid flight and making them rage.

[maynard]

Maybe 2 seconds of teleportation recharge time would be nice.

wrong.

[acolyte_to_jippity]

and on the issue of shadow hunter/molecule, don't forget that shadow hunter is the only race that can sometimes shoot through molecule shield

which should not ever be able to happen. invulnerable means invulnerable. nothing should be able to shoot through a shadow hunter or molecule shield.

[maynard]

that's how it was originally

[Wolfenstinger]

No changes for the vagabond LOL.

Maybe 2 seconds of teleportation recharge time would be nice.

Vagabond has a .5 second CD while Vagalion has a 0 second CD on his ultimate

Works as intended, has been like this and will stay like this. Either get them while they are teleporting around, learn how they teleport and get them, get their asses stuck, or go cry in a corner. Personally : Leave the Fagabond and Vaginalion alone as they are easily counter-able with a lace and simple strategic maneuvers. (Entering thread late, oh well...)

[CYBER]

Ever played Spasm as molecule? He always has anti-wards and he knows how to play that race perfectly, so wards are next to useless against him so while they counter other players, it's a no-go for him. Both human and nebula work as a MUCH better counters to molecule than SH.

I dont know what spasm does exactly, but every time i ward his ass, he's invulnerable to my wards (always has anti_wards), but every time that shit happens, i check his playerinfo and he'd have a lace health helm or some random shit (no anti_wards)...

Unless there's a glitch with anti_wards on molecule, making it able to have the anti_wards effect without holding the item currently, i cant see how my wards never go through... and i check the playerinfo immediately after he rapes my face... and see no anti_wards. But all item slots filled...

Spasm u sure have fast fucking binds to buy ur shit -.-

another possibility : does molecule "evade" the ward skill sometimes? that could explain him not taking any damage, if lucky enough... but that would be a glitch of it's own.

[maynard]

what would be the point of slow binds.

[Spasm]

I dont know what spasm does exactly, but every time i ward his ass, he's invulnerable to my wards (always has anti_wards), but every time that shit happens, i check his playerinfo and he'd have a lace health helm or some random shit (no anti_wards)...

Unless there's a glitch with anti_wards on molecule, making it able to have the anti_wards effect without holding the item currently, i cant see how my wards never go through... and i check the playerinfo immediately after he rapes my face... and see no anti_wards. But all item slots filled...

Spasm u sure have fast fucking binds to buy ur shit -.-

another possibility : does molecule "evade" the ward skill sometimes? that could explain him not taking any damage, if lucky enough... but that would be a glitch of it's own.

I have seen times when wards don't hurt me as molecule when shielded and other times they do, I don't know what really causes that.